[More like muscle memory is the problem. Well, for instance, league of legends, he knows only one charater super well. So If i want to try others, we are inherently much worse with them ]
6:33 AM
[And VRChat... we have a headset, but I... Im not good with talking(as in having my own voice) and plus people might ask why i am acting 'funny'.](edited)
Probably the best option -- what you enjoy in a game may not be exactly the same as what your host enjoys, or what you think you'll enjoy based on looking at the emotions attached to his memories of them
[There is one character, kindred, who is very similar to me and him. One split in two, with one being a shadow wolf. But like you said, what he thinks about them might make them seem worse for me at first? ]
Another thing for day 100 is go someplace quiet that you can talk to each other about whatever, if that isn't the sort of thing you get to do all the time
[Oh, we are lucky then. At work, there is often loud machines around, and we are somewhat secluded... so we can talk to eachother, or even half sing if we are bored and no one can really hear us. ]
[Wow, I just had a realization. He tries to have me front when I can, for practice because some feeling of making us more equal. Like in Pokémon, where you have stronger and weaker Pokémon in your party. You want to make the lowest level stronger first. ]
@Aren mainly was having fun with how I worded I was just wondering if there are any good ways to keep a log perferably portable I live with family and would rather not have hand written notes of weird conversations easily viewable
About q2's guide, I have a question (also here is the guide btw: https://community.tulpa.info/thread-imposition-q2-s-method-for-a-huggable-tulpa-v2)
When they say: "If you can perform some sort of imposition every single day, even multiple times a day, this would be optimal."
Does just presence imposition and visualizing Abby onto her presence work and count?
example: Abby is presence imposed next to me but her form is still visualized in my head, so I imagine her form next to me instead of in headspce
Does this count towards time? (Not that anyone's counting)
I think it's more of a "if you can practice multiple times a day" through the methods listed in that guide instead of OP expecting you to be able to hallucinate.
by visualize I mean imagine with mental eye, not physical eye, although I do see distortions around her often now.
And even if I don't somehow, I genuinly believe that I do and I do see them often, therefore I will. I notice most of this is belief based, it's as possible as you believe it to be at a certain point. Really interesting to think about actually
1:39 PM
holy sh** time slows down so much when you actively follow this guide.
Say, how many of you mix tulpamancy with NPS? In the psychonautic sense for LSD and other substances like it; And in a more hedonistic way with substances like cannabis.
What are your experiences, do you feel that a) you can sense your tulpa better while under the influence or b) feel rather disconnected or c) are unsure whether text and images are drug-induced or 'real'.
I'm asking because I feel more connected while (mildly) high. Also, my current system mate, who isn't that vocal in the mindscape and never tried possession recently spoke using my mouth while high, something I haven't experienced otherwise.
Many seem to believe that NPS have a negative impact on host - tulpa interaction, but my personal findings seem to contradict this.
I'd be interested in eventual discrepancies. For example, your host associated a certain sentence with you, while in reality it came from him. I know that the risk of this happening exists while sober and I speculate that it rises with being high.
@Deleted User We have done 2cb(I think that's what it was anyway, one of the research chemicals that arnt legitimate lsd) the first time doing so my tulpa completely lost the ability to mind speak and she had to come forward and use my voice if she wanted to say anything at all. We ended up stuck co-fronting(almost a merge) for about a week afterwards until we could figure out how to separate again.
Since that time we have done it 2 more times. The second time she wasn't able to mind speak well at all though it was still possible, so she continued to just come forward to use my voice whenever she wanted to talk. That time there was no merge or anything of the sort.
The third and last time was a camping/drugging trip that lasted about 48 hours(re-dosed more than once) and we were able to mind speak just fine though she still came forward to talk quite often.
In each of those cases I had more than one tulpa but the other tulpa disappeared until after the trip was over.
I don't think I would ever trip with anyone that didn't know about my tulpa because there is far too likely a chance for her to just come forward. And she doesn't act like me or sound like me at all when she does. Something like that would be impossible to hide while tripping.
Marijuana is a very frequent thing and doesn't seem to help or hurt. But it's pretty regular, so it would be hard to tell really. Alcohol definately makes them harder to hear/get my attention. But all these substances seem to effect us all. I've heard people say that their tulpa wasn't effected by alcohol or drugs or whatever while they were. Not the case with us.
man procrastinating active forcing just kills my days, can't start anything too big or else I could be engaged till I have not time to sit down and force
Here's a question for the folks that have been doing this a while. After your tulpas are mostly vocal, do you continue to actively force, or do you then just converse regularly?
Passive forcing and fronting is all we do now. I suppose except just before bed. We usually have a last play fight session of the day or something similar.
They prefer to be in a meadow/forest like area when we do things but it can be as different as we want it to be. If it's my choice it's just black or white space with nothing in it. Or I visualize them in the space we happen to be in.
It almost doesn't feel like wonderland territory for me sort of like an intermediate area, plus it looks like the one from the heart of gold from the movie version of hitch hikers guide to the galaxy
2:17 AM
I've tried basing it off of tardis interiors but they don't feel as comfy
2:21 AM
@Deleted User when I first started I had something similar but it was a huge skyscraper with the top being the home base and lower floors lead to different words like a garden/forest with a cabin, a beach area ect
Although I don't consider Zack a tulpa for those who should already know.. Sometimes I like to think of him as one just so I can smile and think that I created such a monstrous killing machine.
[I have other mind characters other than Ranger, but none of them are Tulpas. I had this character I created out of fear named Blood Gray, who was a sociopath that liked to chop me up in the Wonderland. Over time, he became really interested in medieval stuff, and after a bit later he showed more and more signs of empathy and emotion, to the point where he felt lonely and wanted to be more social. I changed his name to Red Gray as a result.](edited)
A lot of my systemmates are like that. Some are more...I guess tame than other's. Like JackTheRadiaution. Murder upon other things are just "normal" here, and no one really cares what Zack/Shadow does.
Zack/Shadow isn't really far off from myself to be fair... Zack's main desire to kill is simply because it's fun for him and he enjoys it. Makes him all peppy and excited especially when he meets someone else who's into similar things. There are plenty of times where he would cut me up in our wonderland. At least it was more common in the past...we don't play together like we used to. Kind of want to do stuff like that with him again though.
On a side note, he's actually been very upset today but has calmed down now.
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